Quick question about CHOPS.
I created a bone chain with a wave running trough the ry channel. How do I offset the channels for each of the bones in CHOPS?
Bone channel offset
8086 20 1
-
- Werner Ziemerink
- Member
- 1268 posts
- Joined: March 2014
- Offline
-
- friedasparagus
- Member
- 402 posts
- Joined: June 2014
- Offline
-
- Werner Ziemerink
- Member
- 1268 posts
- Joined: March 2014
- Offline
-
- friedasparagus
- Member
- 402 posts
- Joined: June 2014
- Offline
Cool! Wasn't sure if that was the desired effect. There are (of course 
) loads of ways to get it sorted, but that's a fairly pure CHOPpy way of doing it. That fan CHOP mystified me for ages, but when you actually find a use for it, that's when it went ‘click’. Can be really handy in combination with doing any kind of integration on a channel (area CHOP) if you want to emulate a simple state machine.
) loads of ways to get it sorted, but that's a fairly pure CHOPpy way of doing it. That fan CHOP mystified me for ages, but when you actually find a use for it, that's when it went ‘click’. Can be really handy in combination with doing any kind of integration on a channel (area CHOP) if you want to emulate a simple state machine.
Henry Dean
-
- friedasparagus
- Member
- 402 posts
- Joined: June 2014
- Offline
-
- Werner Ziemerink
- Member
- 1268 posts
- Joined: March 2014
- Offline
friedasparagus
Oh yes, yours is much cleaner! Nice
Although, I'm amazed your network isn't erroring. I've experienced really unpredictable behaviour using a fetch on the same channels that I later export to…
Hmmm, that makes sense. I can see why you generated a sine wave and just exported to the ry channels without using the fetch chop.
Now I need to go read up on the fan chop.
-
- friedasparagus
- Member
- 402 posts
- Joined: June 2014
- Offline
Yeah, the reason I often WANT to use a fetch in this instance is just for naming reference, but like I said, has given me issues before…
Couldn't help trying another technique. This time using the shuffle to get all the output channels from a single wave channel.
EDIT: big bonus with this one is that you get a nice starting frame, rather than having to wait for a first cycle to complete
Couldn't help trying another technique. This time using the shuffle to get all the output channels from a single wave channel.
EDIT: big bonus with this one is that you get a nice starting frame, rather than having to wait for a first cycle to complete
Edited by friedasparagus - April 6, 2017 07:07:05
Henry Dean
-
- Werner Ziemerink
- Member
- 1268 posts
- Joined: March 2014
- Offline
-
- Werner Ziemerink
- Member
- 1268 posts
- Joined: March 2014
- Offline
-
- friedasparagus
- Member
- 402 posts
- Joined: June 2014
- Offline
Ha, great! My own little video was far more humble (and more dry-techie ), but was aimed more as a way to get people started in using CHOPs for this kind of thing. People seemed to like it though, so I must try and get round to doing the next one.
I'd love to know if there was anything in particular you think would be useful to cover.
I was also trying not just to aim it at ‘procedural’ animation workflows, as this a) isn't completely my bag and b) I wanted to make sure that people began to think of these tools in the context of more ‘traditional’ keyframe animation. Think that it puts a lot of animators off houdini if they think that ‘if it ain’t procedural, it can't live here'
), but was aimed more as a way to get people started in using CHOPs for this kind of thing. People seemed to like it though, so I must try and get round to doing the next one.I'd love to know if there was anything in particular you think would be useful to cover.
I was also trying not just to aim it at ‘procedural’ animation workflows, as this a) isn't completely my bag and b) I wanted to make sure that people began to think of these tools in the context of more ‘traditional’ keyframe animation. Think that it puts a lot of animators off houdini if they think that ‘if it ain’t procedural, it can't live here'
Edited by friedasparagus - April 6, 2017 07:42:26
Henry Dean
-
- Werner Ziemerink
- Member
- 1268 posts
- Joined: March 2014
- Offline
-
- friedasparagus
- Member
- 402 posts
- Joined: June 2014
- Offline
-
- goldfarb
- Staff
- 3463 posts
- Joined: July 2005
- Offline
-
- Werner Ziemerink
- Member
- 1268 posts
- Joined: March 2014
- Offline
-
- friedasparagus
- Member
- 402 posts
- Joined: June 2014
- Offline
-
- captainbuckfish
- Member
- 26 posts
- Joined: Nov. 2015
- Online
I have never looked into CHOPS but after reading (seeing) what was here I applied the .hip to a whale model I had. Looks awesome but I have some questions if thats ok.
When I apply CHOPS to the bones I select all of them and right click> Motion FX> Wave.
It creates a setup a little different to the hip that was on the thread.
Is the set up correct in the picture?
Also animation curves usually have some delay, ramping in and out. Can this be applied to add more sense of weight to the movement?
When I apply CHOPS to the bones I select all of them and right click> Motion FX> Wave.
It creates a setup a little different to the hip that was on the thread.
Is the set up correct in the picture?
Also animation curves usually have some delay, ramping in and out. Can this be applied to add more sense of weight to the movement?
-
- mestela
- Member
- 1802 posts
- Joined: May 2006
- Offline
Nice thread!
After Henry showed me some chop wrangle tricks, that's been my favourite goto for this kind of thing. Plus nothing makes you feel so smug as a good one liner wrangle with a slider.
chinput() Lets you look up a sample from a channel. To set the Value based on the current Channel and the current sample Index (ie, leave the data as-is), is
To offset the sample index per channel, add the channel to the index:
Now you can multiply C by a slider to dial in the amount of lag, 0 is no lag, 1 is a standard amount, you can go above one to get more snake-like motion.
Click the little ‘make sliders’ button, done.
After Henry showed me some chop wrangle tricks, that's been my favourite goto for this kind of thing. Plus nothing makes you feel so smug as a good one liner wrangle with a slider.
chinput() Lets you look up a sample from a channel. To set the Value based on the current Channel and the current sample Index (ie, leave the data as-is), is
V = chinput(0,C,I);
To offset the sample index per channel, add the channel to the index:
V = chinput(0,C,I+C);
Now you can multiply C by a slider to dial in the amount of lag, 0 is no lag, 1 is a standard amount, you can go above one to get more snake-like motion.
V = chinput(0,C,I+C*ch('offset'));Click the little ‘make sliders’ button, done.
-
- captainbuckfish
- Member
- 26 posts
- Joined: Nov. 2015
- Online
Awesome love the sliders!
I set it up but not sure if its correct, any reason why the animation tries to return to the first keyframe at the end? Attached Hip file.
QUESTION. The math node looks like its used to add, blend information fed into it. Is it possible to have a bone chain moving say on the Y axis via a wave node and then add a subtle x axis movement to this again using a wave? Or even add jiggle to bones?
CHOPS has so much potential and I didnt even know about it for ages hahaha so much to learn.
Cheers,
Duncan
I set it up but not sure if its correct, any reason why the animation tries to return to the first keyframe at the end? Attached Hip file.
QUESTION. The math node looks like its used to add, blend information fed into it. Is it possible to have a bone chain moving say on the Y axis via a wave node and then add a subtle x axis movement to this again using a wave? Or even add jiggle to bones?
CHOPS has so much potential and I didnt even know about it for ages hahaha so much to learn.
Cheers,
Duncan
-
- mestela
- Member
- 1802 posts
- Joined: May 2006
- Offline
-
- friedasparagus
- Member
- 402 posts
- Joined: June 2014
- Offline
Hi guys!
Just playing catch up on the files There's a bit of a gotcha on using the fetch CHOP for grabbing channel names - it generates a weird ‘silent’ dependency loop (that'll be why you keep having to bypass things to get it to update). I normally get around this with a constant CHOP, connect the fetch to the first input and hit the ‘Snapshot Input’ button on the constant CHOP, this'll give you a set of correctly named channels without any dependencies. The pain is that you then have to disconnect the fetch CHOP in order to clear any errors, would be great if the Constant CHOP snapshot worked just like the Stash SOP (I have submitted a bug/RFE about it).
Loving that last wrangle though Matt
Just playing catch up on the files
There's a bit of a gotcha on using the fetch CHOP for grabbing channel names - it generates a weird ‘silent’ dependency loop (that'll be why you keep having to bypass things to get it to update). I normally get around this with a constant CHOP, connect the fetch to the first input and hit the ‘Snapshot Input’ button on the constant CHOP, this'll give you a set of correctly named channels without any dependencies. The pain is that you then have to disconnect the fetch CHOP in order to clear any errors, would be great if the Constant CHOP snapshot worked just like the Stash SOP (I have submitted a bug/RFE about it).Loving that last wrangle though Matt
Edited by friedasparagus - July 25, 2017 04:22:34
Henry Dean
-
- Quick Links